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Tuesday, March 17, 2009

The Demons of Bill Warner
Lies, contradictions, and outright insanity.

My first encounter with Bill Warner happened about a year ago. We just published a list of the latest casualties of the Islamofascist-Dhimmi axis assault on Free Speech. People on the list are victims of Islamofascist lawfare. Shortly after the list was published, Bill Warner sent us email saying that he feels left out. The email included a link to a Jihad Watch article "Blogger Sued for Publishing Stories About Muslims linked to Terror." The blogger was Bill Warner and he was being sued by Abdel Dabus, an associate of Sami al-Arian, the jailed head of American branch of Palestinian Islamic Jihad.
Litigation Jihad. The intrepid Pamela over at Atlas Shrugs has the story. The target is Bill Warner, who writes this to Pamela:

On 5/21/2007 I was served summons of Complaint and an Injunction by the Mcintrye Law Firm of Tampa Fl who represent Abdul Raouf M. Dabus in a Defamation Law Suit against myself (Bill Warner & WBI Terrorism Research Ctr.) and my company for supposedly linking Mr. Dabus and his company VIP Motors in Tampa with shipping vehicles to the Middle East for resale in support of terrorism and that Mr. Dabus had worked at the Islamic Academy of Florida with Sami Al-Arain (The School that Terrorism Built) as an instructor from 1999 to an unknown point and that Mr. Dabus was linked to the Palestinian Islamic Jihad and that such information is posted on my web site www.wbipi.com.

No such information states that Mr. Dabus is shipping vehicles to the Middle East on my web site, the statements on my web site concerning Mr. Dabus are from open source public records and the Sami Al-Arian trial.

Mr, Dabus did work for the Islamic Academy of Florida with Sami al-Arian from at least 1999 to an unknown point, see Tampa Tribune article by Michael Fechter...
This was a clear case of an Islamofascist trying to shut someone up using our legal system, so we placed Bill Warner on that list. The same list that contains Pamela Geller and Geert Wilders; the fact is very important for this story.

Bill Warner replied: "Thanks a lot, I am so honored to be included in this group !"

A year goes by and one of my associates brings up to my attention the following article posted on Bill Warner’s website: "NEO-NAZI “FREEDOM PARTY” RISES TO POWER IN AUSTRIA, SAME POLICY AS DUTCH MP GEERT WILDERS “PARTY FOR FREEDOM”." The article contains a picture of Dutch MP Geert Wilders with poorly Photoshopped Hitler-style mustache and a Nazi band on his sleeve standing right to Pamela Geller. On the sidebar, there is an "Interests" section. It contains another picture of Geert Wilders with Hitleresque mustache which reads: "Neo Nazi's (sic.) Support Geert Wilders", as if English is not Bill Warner's native tongue, with the line underneath reading "IMPEACH RACIST DUTCH M.P. GEERT WILDERS AND SEND HIM TO PRISON." The "Interests" section also contains links to "Target Shooting," "Skeet Shooting," and "Boxing and Bar Room Brawls." The links are just for show, they lead to empty pages, but being a private investigator, Bill Warner probably needs to maintain his tough guy image for his customers.

Our organization has done extensive research on Geert Wilders and while we do not agree with all his views on Islam, we haven't found a single racist statement coming from Dutch MP. Sure, Mr. Wilders is often accused of being a racist, but being a private investigator, Bill Warner should know better than to use secondary sources, rumors, and innuendos when primary source is widely available. So, I left a comment introducing myself and asking what exactly makes Geert Wilders a racist. Bill Warner's response included "you tool !" and "Geert Wilders is a bigot, enough said." There was no answer to my question why Bill Warner considers Geert Wilders a racist.

I posted a comment with a link to an article from Jewish Telegraphic Agency "Synagogue hails Dutch lawmaker as a hero" by Penny Schwartz, stating that everyone of those Jews cannot be that stupid to embrace a Nazi, but the comment got promptly deleted. As I found out later, Bill Warner may not be a good private investigator, but he absolutely mastered the skill of deleting or editing comments that expose him as fraud. No worries, though, I took the screenshots.

I realized that I will not be able to convince Bill Warner that he is wrong about Wilders, but there was another issue. Pamela Geller of Atlas Shrugs, who so graciously publicized Bill Warner's Free Speech issue, who raised money for Bill Warner's defense on her blog, and whose reader, a lawyer, represented him pro bono, still had her picture standing next to a "Nazi" on Bill Warner's blog. Talk about being ungrateful! Pamela is also one of our early and most prominent supporters. As a matter of fact, when some Islamofascists created a now defunct blog exposingmuslimsagainstsharia.blogspot.com, they claimed that "Muslims Against Sharia" was Pamela's creation, the claim constantly repeated by virtually every one of the MASH detractors. Considering Bill Warner's previous statement "I am so honored to be included in this group !" I wrote the following email: " If you were sincere about being honored to be included in this group (http://muslimsagainstsharia.blogspot.com/2008/01/islamofascist-dhimmi-axis-assault-on.html), out of respect for Pamela, you should remove her picture from http://www.billwarnerpi.com/2009/03/neo-nazi-freedom-party-rises-to-power.html post. She is Jewish and will find it highly offensive. Regardless of your feelings for Wilders, she deserves better."

The response I received was quite unexpected: "Just who the hell do you think you are "preaching" to me, you know nothing maggot !" After that we exchanged a few choice words where Bill Warner revealed his unhealthy fascination with larvae as well as his unmatched ability to bravely issue threats hiding behind the computer: "You need to pray to your god that you never show up in the same room as me, ever, you maggot !"

After that Bill Warner created two posts dedicated to yours truly.

First, "Who is Khalim Massoud and what does he really do and does anyone really care?" was the best example yet of how easily Bill Warner contradicts himself. If no one really cares (as the title suggests) who Khalim Massoud is, why post an article (actually two articles) about Khalim Massoud? Why scour the Internet trying to find information about Khalim Massoud? Being a private investigator, you would think that Bill Warner would have dug up something interesting. Apparently, all he managed to find that he can't really find anything. Some PI! I bet he doesn't get a lot of referrals or repeat business. But anyway, one of the items he did manage to find (a PI who knows how to use Google – imagine that!) is my comment on IPT blog: "I've visited your [DebbieSchlussel.com] site a few times; a substantial portion of which is dedicated to slamming people who are fighting Islamism. What is troubling is that the most venomous attacks seem to be reserved for them, not for Islamists. I might be going out on a limb here, but wouldn't it be more productive if you concentrated your fury on the real enemy?" which was a response to Debbie's "Per usual, the Investigative Project's info is bunk, and this article simply isn't true. ..." comment. Since Bill Warner quite pompously claims to be such a great fighter of terrorism, "I get the radicals put in jail and I shut down Jihad websites, I am pro-active and do much more than just write about radical Islam like a lot of so called conservative bloggers and Islamic "experts" do," my suggestion to Debbie also applies to him. If you visit his blog, http://pibillwarner.wordpress.com/, you'll notice that the most venomous attacks are reserved for Geert Wilders and yours truly, while Islamic radicals are treated with a lot more respect - I guess he has learned his lesson from the aforementioned lawsuit: don't be disrespectful to Islamists, they'll drag you into court.

In second, "Khalim Massoud of Muslims Against Sharia identity revealed, see his photo.", Bill Warner proves what an outstanding private investigator he is by displaying a photo a retarded child from "Deliverance" claiming it to be my photo. One would think that it is an obvious joke. I wouldn't be so sure. Bill Warner is not smart enough to understand the meaning of the word "racist," he is not smart enough to understand that posting a photo of a Jewish lady next to a "Nazi" is highly offensive, and he is not smart enough to understand that claiming that he doesn't care about someone while posting an article about that person makes him look like a fool. Therefore, the possibility that Bill Warner is not smart enough to distinguish between the kid from "Deliverance" and me should not be discarded.

I think that every potential client of Bill Warner should read this article before hiring him.

Khalim Massoud

Update:
I talked to some of the people in anti-Islamist circles to fund out if this experience with Bill Warner is unique to Pamela Geller, Geert Wilders and me. Apparently not. He has quite a reputation of being insane.